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Post by the answer on Dec 5, 2005 18:30:40 GMT -5
i think the movies and the books, when read in the right way are harmless.
Ya'll agree?
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Post by eternal on Dec 5, 2005 18:40:29 GMT -5
i think the movies and the books, when read in the right way are harmless. Ya'll agree? If you've even touched the cover, you are in danger of the hell fire. You need to recant quickly, create a thread bashing any and everyone associated with pogs, and calling all actors the devil, since God wants us to be real, and not doulbe minded, which is exactly what an actor is. Also there is secular music in Harry Potter which makes is tripply evil. If the soundtrack is not lifting up Christ then it is assaulting and attacking the Savior. Do you really want to support that? |
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Post by the answer on Dec 5, 2005 18:42:35 GMT -5
"tripply evil"  ;D ;D ;D LOL LOL |
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Post by king neb on Dec 5, 2005 19:26:18 GMT -5
dang eternal, why you trippling?
anywho, thanks for the answer.
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Post by eternal on Dec 5, 2005 20:04:17 GMT -5
dang eternal, why you trippling? Touch not God's annointed. |
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Post by eternal on Dec 6, 2005 14:35:47 GMT -5
Yo answer...do you think all your fundie homeboys are cool with watching football, knowing the players are prideful and want to puff there own selves up instead of God?
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Post by cderolic on Dec 6, 2005 15:29:10 GMT -5
Nahh, its a story! BTW, who is going to see Narnia?
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 16:23:11 GMT -5
Yo answer...do you think all your fundie homeboys are cool with watching football, knowing the players are prideful and want to puff there own selves up instead of God? yeah we cool have u been watching the thread at HCR on this? |
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 16:23:32 GMT -5
Nahh, its a story! BTW, who is going to see Narnia? ME ME ME |
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Post by eternal on Dec 6, 2005 16:39:06 GMT -5
Yo answer...do you think all your fundie homeboys are cool with watching football, knowing the players are prideful and want to puff there own selves up instead of God? yeah we cool have u been watching the thread at HCR on this? No I haven't. Should I? Any "keepers?" I just know the type. I know the huge stretches of imagination some people go through to either justify sin or to condemn others for doing things they think are sin. Both are fruitless and damaging. But I have encountered too many people on the internet who want to seem so super spiritual that they can see the sinfulness in eating watermelon, and want to put that yoke over you. Ego's IMO. |
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Post by king neb on Dec 6, 2005 17:51:23 GMT -5
Cruz, that's narnia business.... ;D
haha...im there dude.
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 18:37:18 GMT -5
yeah E
i agree with ya. some people over there are like " i don't watch disney, star wars, thats so raven ( she has physic powers, can see into the future), or anything like that. and u shouldn't either.
they said i was in ' danger'
i dunno. it's amazing how far we go in calling sin what the bible never calls sin.
it's almost like we have no freedom. and it's getting to the point where it is gettin fruitless, cuz now he saying outlandish things and i tend to get upset when personal comments are made about my walk.
im still learning how to speak with grace over the net
yeah
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Post by eternal on Dec 6, 2005 19:12:47 GMT -5
yeah E i agree with ya. some people over there are like " i don't watch disney, star wars, thats so raven ( she has physic powers, can see into the future), or anything like that. and u shouldn't either. LOL! Now that's comedy. Fantasy is clearly distinct from reality, and is approached as such, and allow for tremendous metaphors even of great spiritual significance to be drawn from them. These are the same people who would poo poo all over the song of solomon if it wasn't in the bible. Jesus would take intensely secular happenings, and use them to articulate spiritual truths. He used an unjust land owner to talk about God. He used agriculture, a woman missing her coin! Paul studied secular godless philosophy and even agreed with it from time to time! And as a result he was able to quote those instances and say it was true for the TRUE GOD as well. But if some of these cats had their way, Acts 17 would never have occured in the first place! Shoot, Paul said to go ahead and eat meat even if it was sacrificed to idols. That was a direct no no from Acts 15 yet Paul says don't ask, so your conscience will be ok. YIKES! There will always be issues that convict some but not others. It was true with Paul and it is true today. I happen to think Paul had a good approach to the whole thing, and it is the same way I try to come at these kinds of issues myself. Others? Well they like the more supra apostle approach Paul disagreed with. |
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 20:02:57 GMT -5
yeah E i agree with ya. some people over there are like " i don't watch disney, star wars, thats so raven ( she has physic powers, can see into the future), or anything like that. and u shouldn't either. LOL! Now that's comedy. Fantasy is clearly distinct from reality, and is approached as such, and allow for tremendous metaphors even of great spiritual significance to be drawn from them. These are the same people who would poo poo all over the song of solomon if it wasn't in the bible. Jesus would take intensely secular happenings, and use them to articulate spiritual truths. He used an unjust land owner to talk about God. He used agriculture, a woman missing her coin! Paul studied secular godless philosophy and even agreed with it from time to time! And as a result he was able to quote those instances and say it was true for the TRUE GOD as well. But if some of these cats had their way, Acts 17 would never have occured in the first place! Shoot, Paul said to go ahead and eat meat even if it was sacrificed to idols. That was a direct no no from Acts 15 yet Paul says don't ask, so your conscience will be ok. YIKES! There will always be issues that convict some but not others. It was true with Paul and it is true today. I happen to think Paul had a good approach to the whole thing, and it is the same way I try to come at these kinds of issues myself. Others? Well they like the more supra apostle approach Paul disagreed with. Wisdom |
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Post by kobe on Dec 6, 2005 21:00:17 GMT -5
oh no they didnt talk about the anointed Jedi's!!
lol, i'm a HUGE star wars geek. (actually, i know others who are much worse, lol, i cant be that bad. but i did recently buy a star wars soundtrack and been bumpin it in the car :-D)
but Star is SOOO based on Christian principles! lol. i could a few dozen christian lessons to be learned from the movies. ;-) most Disney movies also have many Christian values, i dont see what the beef them is. :-P
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 21:09:15 GMT -5
THey say there is witchcraft in them...and for them to watch witchcraft is wrong
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Post by the answer on Dec 6, 2005 21:12:42 GMT -5
HEre are some examples of stuff they were saying
Harry Potter as well as ouija boards, and other magical practices open people up to demonic invasion. What I mean by this is when a young child watches Harry Potter it desensitizes the mind to witchcraft, and they will be tempted to practice it if the opportunity presents itself. Witches, warlocks, and magic are real, so they are nothing to be played with.
I believe that the book is harmful- I too watched cartoons as a kid that had witches and stuff like that in it (he man, she ra)- I know better now. God's grace kept me from the evils that those pictures portrayed. But now that I'm older and have discernment, I can see how that stuff is strait dangerous.
the only difference between a "real" witch and one in a cartoon is that one is on tv and appears more harmless, but it's prerequisite and initiation for the real life stuff. TV works like that- whatever shows on tv eventually becomes a more socially accepted norm. The limits are usually pushed on TV/MOVIES first, else why would people watch tv and movies that portrays exact real life circumstances? TV prepairs the young child to take interest in "powers" and things. While they might be innocent, if gone unchecked, those things will become some serious strongholds in their life.
Witchcraft in cartoons, wether they are "real" witches are not is nothing different than sex in cartoons. I know the difference between real sexual sins and cartoons touching on the same topic- but it's the fact that sexual impurity, just as witchcraft, is a work of the flesh, and it shouldn't be entertained in in real life or through a synthesized one (media/computer).
This is a deep spiritual matter you are discussing and only those with their ears tuned to spiritual things will understand the consequences and implications we are talking about. Because it can SEEM harmless and innocent, but it's not. This is deception.
One thing that Satan uses is the power of suggestion. We are in the world, but not of the world. The less wickedness someone can be exposed to the better. The more righteousness the better.
My daughter is pure and my prayer is that she remains that way. But, if I let her watch porno everyday, chances are she will follow that lifestyle and become a premiscuous person. Also, if I let her watch Harry Potter, she may have a seed planted in her that says "Why don't you try that and see if it works?" This is why my wife and I don't allow her to watch "That's So Raven" on the Disney Channel (a lot of mess on that channel). Satan is cunning and crafty.
I can instantly tell if my daugther has been exposed to something she shouldn't have b/c it got picked up somewhere. Either from TV, radio, classmates, friends, etc.
I encourage you to re-evaluate your stance on these matters.
I'm arguing that Christians who are into "Potter" are not using good judgment. I don't think we should consume these kinds of entertainment. Yes, influence and suggestion is everywhere, and that is why the bible teaches about fasting, sanctificaion and following after holiness. Why? Because we can pick this stuff up daily, but we shouldn't pick it up WILLINGLY.
Do you remember what Peter said about Lot? (Probably not )
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Originally Posted by 2 Peter:7-8
7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds)
It just said in seeing and hearing. It didn't even say he participated. He was just exposed to it. By doing so, he VEXED his soul. Vex means "to bring trouble, distress, or agitation." Basically you're causing a war within your soul and within your members (your body). And you know what your soul is? Your MIND, WILL and EMOTIONS.
Fam, be not deceived.
So herein lies the question, why would you WILLINGLY expose yourself to these things?
I believe that Harry Potter is not material that should be entertained by the Christian's. Harry Potter movies and books are obvious secular not to mention the content of witchcraft sorcery, demons and encantations which God condemns as an abomination. It is the very small subtleties of the world that distract us Christians from God. I believe we must not mingle nor engage ourselves with these thing for no other reason that this is not of God. This suggested material what may seem as a fantasy to you are actually a 'basis for life and purpose' to some people. While not forgetting God's redeeming mercies, you must realize that the Lord will NOT redeem witchcraft, not saying we are witches for watching this demonic material but, but knowing what the content is thereof, why would you even want to watch it. Keep your eyes on God my people, forsake all wickedness.
I believe that anything you don't practice you should shun from it....
its something so demonic about the witchcraft lifestyle, teaching, worshiping, and even there doctrine. Anytime something that has something to do with it comes up pray against it quickly.
You should pick up "SETTING THE CAPTIVES FREE" by Rebecca Brown M.D.
Witchcraft is a realm you dont' want to have a part of........... The bible also says "If your guilty of Part your gulity of the whole thing". Its no over reaction Man of God it is a alarm that goes off when the enemy tries to open a door in a place he isn't welcome.
Harry Potter is a tool to get people to welcome witchcraft into there homes and think that it is harmless. WHen in reality people (warlocks, witches) "PRAY" over these books and spirits are attached to them. So like i said it is a realm you don't want to deal wit............ Sorta like that cursed thing and man who was in the camp with DAVID
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Post by cderolic on Dec 6, 2005 21:45:58 GMT -5
Wow!
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Post by eternal on Dec 6, 2005 22:15:11 GMT -5
LOL. Don't have mushrooms in your salad, people have used them to get high and to enter trances to worship false gods...uhoh! Or saunas...don't use a sauna because back in the day they were used in native american prayers and mystic exprience to false gods. I could go on all week with this stuff. You can't enjoy anything that was created or related to ungodly things. Shoot, the number one use of the internet is pornography. |
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Post by kobe on Dec 7, 2005 8:22:28 GMT -5
i actually agree with the principles of the power of suggestion and ESPECIALLY how the media portrays stuff.
so while i myself, do see Harry Potter as harmless for me, i'm MUCH more careful about if and how it could effect my kids. with my strong foundation in Christ and Christ like discernment and perception of the world, harry potter or any movies for that matter, can influence me negatively. (the way i think). however, kids ARE MUCH more impressionable.
as a parent, i always try to be a REAL as possible with my kids, not just telling them do's and dont's, but the WHY's behind it. we've never lied to our kids to make Santa Claus out to be real. stuff like that. and while it is my job to explain the difference between real witchcraft and harry potter stuff and that movies are fiction and fantasy-based, i dunno, its just a line of balance you want to have and its different for each child.
but if you're gonna talk about harry potter and star wars, many "christian" movies have much more "witchcraft" type elements in them, like Narnia and Lord of the Rings. they even sell those in the Christian bookstores. ah well, God bless
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